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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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Oh right... two sensors I forgot about that
 
Old Feb 17, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sugarphreak
We are getting into totally unknown territory for me now

Where to find innovate products? What Kit? Best prices?

Once I get my hands on a wideband we can do the install whenever you guys have time!
Innovative widebands are all over ebay. eBay Motors: Innovate LC-1 Wideband o2 Db Red Or Blue Gauge Uego (item 190286447801 end time Feb-21-09 19:57:31 PST)

I have the AEM UEGO which is good aswell, but it has a calibrated O2 sensor which means if you need to get a new sensor it'll cost a bit more. I paid 180cdn shipped for my UEGO off ebay. It was new, just found a good deal.

eBay Motors: AEM GAUGE TYPE 6-IN-1 WIDEBAND UEGO CONTROLLER 30-4100 (item 280305941452 end time Feb-22-09 15:49:12 PST)
 
Old Feb 17, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Sugarphreak
Oh right... two sensors I forgot about that
Just get a wideband, and then take the car to an exhaust shop. It only took me 10 mins at the shop and $20. Get the additional bung welded onto the mid-pipe somewhere... I did mine on my test pipe right before the midpipe, and then you can run the wires directly up through the center console where the secondary wideband goes... pretty nice that there's already a grommet there to go in, just gotta remove the center console and fish it through.
 
Old Feb 17, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Well as long as ET can use it I will see if I can find a good deal on one

I would like to buy locally if possible instead of ebay, anybody know some good leads?
 

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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 10:26 PM
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Mopac has the UEGO but it's not a good deal at 260 lol.

Online is where it's at for this stuff.

I would recommend the Lc1 with xd 16 gauge as a "best" option. The sensor is better quality, lasts longer and is more precise. It also responds faster to readings.

If you're a baller you can get their lm1 which is even better and has datalogging abilities.

The uego is a decent unit also.

Check out innovate.com and try to find a local dealer.

I would also recommend ebay or maybe if you come a deal on Fitfreak or Honda tech it would be best.

Jon and I can help you tune it no problem. Your timing should already be good from dyno tuning so it's just adjusting values in an excel type sheet depending on the rpm and vacuum load.
 
Old Feb 17, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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Mopac has the UEGO but it's not a good deal at 260 lol.

Online is where it's at for this stuff.

I would recommend the Lc1 with xd 16 gauge as a "best" option. The sensor is better quality, lasts longer and is more precise. It also responds faster to readings.

If you're a baller you can get their lm1 which is even better and has datalogging abilities.

The uego is a decent unit also.

Check out innovate.com and try to find a local dealer.

I would also recommend ebay or maybe if you come a deal on Fitfreak or Honda tech it would be best.

Jon and I can help you tune it no problem. Your timing should already be good from dyno tuning so it's just adjusting values in an excel type sheet depending on the rpm and vacuum load.
The UEGO also has data logging abilities too via RS232 DB9 connection. It has 2 additional lines that comes out of the gauge, one for data logging and one to go to a piggyback/standalone for tuning.

But look for the best deal IMO... 260 isn't bad considering its in canadian funds, if you get one off ebay for 200US + shipping/brokerage etc then it could come out to more, and with buying locally you have customer service and warranty
 
Old Feb 17, 2009 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_ET
Mopac has the UEGO but it's not a good deal at 260 lol.

Online is where it's at for this stuff.

I would recommend the Lc1 with xd 16 gauge as a "best" option. The sensor is better quality, lasts longer and is more precise. It also responds faster to readings.

If you're a baller you can get their lm1 which is even better and has datalogging abilities.

The uego is a decent unit also.

Check out innovate.com and try to find a local dealer.

I would also recommend ebay or maybe if you come a deal on Fitfreak or Honda tech it would be best.

Jon and I can help you tune it no problem. Your timing should already be good from dyno tuning so it's just adjusting values in an excel type sheet depending on the rpm and vacuum load.
I never had it dyno tuned, they took it out with a sniffer in Vancouver to tune it.

haha, I am a baller... er... as in crying when it comes to spending so much cash

Can you get the LC1/LM1 locally as well?

What about the LM2?
 
Old Feb 17, 2009 | 11:32 PM
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I think mopac can get the lc1 combo with the xd 16 gauge for around 400


Looks like the lm2 is the new version of the lm1 should be a pretty good unit but overkill for your needs especially if you already have an eManage ultimate that can probably data log other stuff aside from A/F.

Seriously dude if you want a wideband buy it online and both Adam and I can help you find one for a good deal. It might take longer to get here but youll save quite a bit of coin.
 
Old Feb 17, 2009 | 11:35 PM
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I actually don't have an E-bay account, any chance you could find a smok'n deal and order one on my behalf. Just let me know how much it costs and I will reimburse you.
 
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 12:31 AM
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Xenocron Tuning: Permanent Installation Innovate Motorsports Wideband Kits - LC1, LC-1, XD16, XD-16, DB Blue, DB red, O-meter

have a look at this they have some pretty good deals. The xd 16 is actually a full standalone and has datalogging also.

Never used it on mine but always good to have.
 
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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This is a permanent kit or can just be used for tuning and taken off?
 
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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I believe that has been answered
 
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 06:09 PM
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Any word on the cost for the LM2
 
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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Called Projekz about it?
 
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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You bet! Projekz is the man!!

I will look after getting a bung installed on the header this Saturday, maybe the following weekend we can do install?
 
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You bet! Projekz is the man!!

I will look after getting a bung installed on the header this Saturday, maybe the following weekend we can do install?
Ill talk to Jon and see if that date can work
 
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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LM2 in hand!! Thanks guys

Is the middle kit with the carry case & all the extra cables & gizmos like the RPM tie-in, OBD2 scanner and SD card.


But man, is every muffler shop in town closed today??? I couldn't find anywhere that would do the bung for me

Crowfoot Brake & Muffler = CLOSED
Speedy Muffler Shop = CLOSED
Certiguard = CLOSED
 
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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So it was the better one you got then? Not the base model then?
 
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Sounds awesome for the LM2 Nick!

thx for the help Seb.

Finally got my car to work so will pick that oil up from you soon.

Nick did you see if any muffler shop had hours of operation Saturday? Could always go back next week.
 
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So it was the better one you got then? Not the base model then?
Yeah it is the LM2 full kit, not the "basic kit"... which is good because if any CEL's pop up we can at scan them.

I wonder how hard the RPM wiring is? Apparently it can make a chart of RPM's VS A/F ratio's that you can download to the computer. Could be useful when tweaking the greddy map.


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Sounds awesome for the LM2 Nick!

thx for the help Seb.

Finally got my car to work so will pick that oil up from you soon.

Nick did you see if any muffler shop had hours of operation Saturday? Could always go back next week.
It was really weird, I was fully expecting Crowfoot Muffler to be open.. and Speedy should have been open on Saturday until 5:00, it even says so on the door.
 

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