for those that dont already know- Hondata
#81
11-16-2012, 10:57 PM
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 4,424
Well good news everyone!
Tyler's base tune and dyno runs are in!
Feast your eyes on this:
Yes, that is an 11whp bump from an extremely rudimentary tune!
"So what?" you say "For $600+ I only get 11whp?
Lets put that in perspective.. that is a 12.4% gain in power from merely adjusting the fuel trims and NOTHING ELSE
Compared to the T1R turbo kit, for example that is a better dollar/whp ratio.
A&J Racing :: Engine :: Turbo :: T1R Type-S Turbo Kit - Honda Fit/Jazz 06-08 (GD3/GD4) (USDM)
T1R 145whp @ 4.5psi = 62.9% increase over stock for a 5MT GD3
FlashPro Base Tune = 12.4% increase
Now lets look at this in terms of "bang for your buck" ... The T1R turbo kit makes 5 times the power, but 7 times the cost.
Who remembers this article?:
Honda Fit Power Pages - Import Tuner Magazine
Where they spent $1050 for 9whp? And what they don't mention in the article is how the gains get pulled back into the fold by the stock ECU when left to make up its own mind.
Very few opportunities like this in the tuning world, especially on such a small displacement motor, that is so well optimized from the factory to begin with.
Now this shop and their tuner, who shall remain nameless, was not the shop he initially intended to go to.
They dropped VTEC activation too low (~2500rpm) which is why there are two dips early in the rev range and they leaned it out a bit too far, almost 13.7:1 AFR under full load in a couple spots. No knock was detected, and no knock retard was shown in the calibration so it is a safe tune, but not ideal.
Meaning that there is still more to be had.
Updates to come.
When I said, that like ECMLink for DSMs, VAGCom for VWs, Pro EFI/FAST for the V8 folks.. this should be the first proper mod you do for your Fit.
Otherwise all that money you would spend on I/H/E is for nothing because the ECU will adapt to it and bring your power back down.
FlashPro makes it permanent, and then when its time for emissions, you can revert back to your stock maps and have all your monitors ready to go.
This is a giant leap forward.
Tyler's base tune and dyno runs are in!
Feast your eyes on this:
Yes, that is an 11whp bump from an extremely rudimentary tune!
"So what?" you say "For $600+ I only get 11whp?
Lets put that in perspective.. that is a 12.4% gain in power from merely adjusting the fuel trims and NOTHING ELSE
Compared to the T1R turbo kit, for example that is a better dollar/whp ratio.
A&J Racing :: Engine :: Turbo :: T1R Type-S Turbo Kit - Honda Fit/Jazz 06-08 (GD3/GD4) (USDM)
T1R 145whp @ 4.5psi = 62.9% increase over stock for a 5MT GD3
FlashPro Base Tune = 12.4% increase
Now lets look at this in terms of "bang for your buck" ... The T1R turbo kit makes 5 times the power, but 7 times the cost.
Who remembers this article?:
Honda Fit Power Pages - Import Tuner Magazine
Where they spent $1050 for 9whp? And what they don't mention in the article is how the gains get pulled back into the fold by the stock ECU when left to make up its own mind.
Very few opportunities like this in the tuning world, especially on such a small displacement motor, that is so well optimized from the factory to begin with.
Now this shop and their tuner, who shall remain nameless, was not the shop he initially intended to go to.
They dropped VTEC activation too low (~2500rpm) which is why there are two dips early in the rev range and they leaned it out a bit too far, almost 13.7:1 AFR under full load in a couple spots. No knock was detected, and no knock retard was shown in the calibration so it is a safe tune, but not ideal.
Meaning that there is still more to be had.
Updates to come.
When I said, that like ECMLink for DSMs, VAGCom for VWs, Pro EFI/FAST for the V8 folks.. this should be the first proper mod you do for your Fit.
Otherwise all that money you would spend on I/H/E is for nothing because the ECU will adapt to it and bring your power back down.
FlashPro makes it permanent, and then when its time for emissions, you can revert back to your stock maps and have all your monitors ready to go.
This is a giant leap forward.
#82
11-17-2012, 04:37 AM
11 whp with a basic tune is pretty good. It really shows how much you are leaving on the table with out getting the car tuned and how much the ECU keeps everything in a more Eco friendly mode.
#83
11-17-2012, 11:31 AM
If your going to play you are going to have to pay... This thing is a hell of a lot more bang for the buck than a titanium exhaust system or high status wheels that I've seen people endlessly ooh and ahh over.
#85
11-17-2012, 02:23 PM
@dewthedew OF course it would... hope your on the Nice list this year
#89
11-17-2012, 06:59 PM
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 4,424
Got my FlashPro today!
Rev limiter set to 7900/7750 recovery
Launch limiter set to 5250/4900 recovery
Low load AFR targeting 15.2:1, thinking about going higher under cruise but still playing around with that.. should give me a respectable bump in fuel economy without really having to think about or do anything haha
Added 1-2 degrees advance every where but the VTEC cam changeover, low-mid range feels mildly improved.
Added a few degrees of timing out the top, saw no knock even with the thresholds set lower.
Leaned out to 13.2:1 past peak torque on the WOT Lambda maps and again no knock or stutter.
I completely changed the feel of the car above 5k rpm and pulls pretty solid to 7500. Get more MPH between shifts speeds things up considerably, and gear change drops directly into peak torque making pick up much snappier.
As a bonus this little hamster mill starts to scream after 7000rpm, even through a stock airbox and exhaust.
Can't wait to get the cam and springs in this bitch.
Rev limiter set to 7900/7750 recovery
Launch limiter set to 5250/4900 recovery
Low load AFR targeting 15.2:1, thinking about going higher under cruise but still playing around with that.. should give me a respectable bump in fuel economy without really having to think about or do anything haha
Added 1-2 degrees advance every where but the VTEC cam changeover, low-mid range feels mildly improved.
Added a few degrees of timing out the top, saw no knock even with the thresholds set lower.
Leaned out to 13.2:1 past peak torque on the WOT Lambda maps and again no knock or stutter.
I completely changed the feel of the car above 5k rpm and pulls pretty solid to 7500. Get more MPH between shifts speeds things up considerably, and gear change drops directly into peak torque making pick up much snappier.
As a bonus this little hamster mill starts to scream after 7000rpm, even through a stock airbox and exhaust.
Can't wait to get the cam and springs in this bitch.
#90
11-17-2012, 07:01 PM
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 4,424
I'll try and load some screen shots tonight or tomorrow.
TPC I have your calibration loaded, and I'll hopefully get back to you within the next 24 hours
TPC I have your calibration loaded, and I'll hopefully get back to you within the next 24 hours
#92
11-17-2012, 07:05 PM
. Also, if you could explain how to actually use the launch limiter thingy... 
#95
11-17-2012, 11:41 PM
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 4,424
Here's a teaser - The Ignition "Low" table tracing live data:
Rev Limiter tab on the Calibration (Advanced) settings menu:
Zoomed in on the datalog of me testing out my new found launch control:
Rev Limiter tab on the Calibration (Advanced) settings menu:
Zoomed in on the datalog of me testing out my new found launch control:
#97
11-17-2012, 11:54 PM
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 4,424
Some reeaaally shitty video from my prehistoric cell phone just showing some of the data rolling in -
Cannot wait to get my GoPro next month
Cannot wait to get my GoPro next month
Last edited by DiamondStarMonsters; 11-17-2012 at 11:56 PM.
#99
11-18-2012, 07:45 PM
I do see some knock retard across the board of 3 degrees, is that on premium? That is very lean 29/1.