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Old Sep 4, 2014 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Christina11
1. Passion berry pearl ex Cvt, rear bumper applique and remote starter.
2. Ky but purchased in Colerain Ohio
3. $19,025
4. OTD $20,688; rear bumper applique was free.
Had a bad experience completely turned around so I was okay with paying msrp since the dealer near me wanted $1000 mark up.
You indicated the car came with the "remote starter".....This is an expensive option to add, but yours was thrown in for free?

Sweet deal.
 
Old Sep 4, 2014 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by morgantruce
There are a few maintenance procedures that I recognize would be done best by Honda, but I would certainly set some ground rules with the Honda Service Manager BEFORE I would turn over my car to their service department. You have to be careful about what you are signing when leaving your car for service---and I plan on asking about that over the phone before even making an appointment.
Excellent advice! Wish I had been more educated / attentive with a prior car (not a Honda -- a Hyundai) as the service department turned out to be incredibly shady. They did in fact do all of the work being charged, but...

1) I terribly overpaid for things that I later found that I could easily do for a fraction and little time commitment such as cabin air filter and engine air filter.
2) I paid way too much for things that are a waste of money. Got talked into "fuel injector cleaning" which cost a good bit more than I later found it should have, and it wasn't even needed as the car was running fine and I had never used anything other than Top Tier fuel.
3) Never figured what was going on with my brakes - one time they indicated that I needed pads, so I did it, then just a couple or few visits later they claimed my pads were worn and that I might want to go ahead and have them replaced... I said, "No, this seems rather early for that and we'll talk more about it next time" -- and next visit, the service report showed only modest wear and nothing like what was indicated the last time.
4) Dude wanted to replace my tires somewhat earlier than needed, and offered a "today only" "bargain" if I would go ahead and let him. My own visual inspection left me thinking they had a bit of life yet, and the tire store next door thought so too when I drove right over after the service visit was over.
4) Bunches of other things that later didn't seem right or necessary
5) And everything was more expensive than I would have thought -- perhaps typical for a dealership but still expensive.

In the end, while the prices were high for the work and parts, I'm more upset over the unnecessary work.

It took me a while to start catching on and either going elsewhere or engaging them only for very specific things and nothing more. Of course, the service manager / associate was always such a nice fellow and seemed so honest. Don't trust that.

I guess it was the brakes thing that got me to looking back at all of those invoices and noticing a lot of things that were questionable. Shamefully (I'm quite embarrassed about this), I just didn't look very closely and trusted too much that they were doing only what needed to be done. I really felt like a gullible and inattentive fool, and I'm hoping I've learned from it and won't repeat my costly mistakes.
 
Old Sep 4, 2014 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TCroly
It really feels good to hear that things learned here really helped you to have the confidence to hold your ground and ultimately save yourself some cash! Way to go!
I LOVE this forum! I haven't posted a lot (mostly just to complain that I still hadn't gotten my Aegean Blue car yet *hands on hips...stomps feet*), but I've picked up an awful lot of useful information in the time I've been here (and in the time I was lurking). I credit all you guys for helping me to make a much more informed decision when purchasing this car, and definitely, definitely for my steely resolve during the purchasing process yesterday.

Originally Posted by chrisjones
Good for you for refusing to cave on the stupid overpriced add-ons. I really wish more people would do that, and maybe dealers would get the clue and stop pre-bundling accessories and the "protection" packages. They know well enough that if it isn't already on the car and they try selling up on accessories, few are going to take the accessories when told, "We recommend floor mats for $200, and wheel locks for $400, and..."

But if on the car, most will just take it.
That's what they said. They had NEVER taken a protection package off of a car before (mhm...okay...I'm sure I'm special ) because in the 2 months they'd been selling them, not a single person had asked for such an outrageous thing, especially for a car in such high demand. I was livid when they told me that, to the point that my hands actually started shaking. Lol.

I think that's my one big takeaway from this whole thing. Do not buy the proctology package!!

Originally Posted by morgantruce
I'm sure that spaghtina really feels like going to that dealer for service after the way they tried to hose her down at the sale. (Not!)

I am hoping to find a local independent mechanic to take care of much of the maintenance I am unable to perform (under-car work is totally out of the question for me due to health problems.) There are a few maintenance procedures that I recognize would be done best by Honda, but I would certainly set some ground rules with the Honda Service Manager BEFORE I would turn over my car to their service department. You have to be careful about what you are signing when leaving your car for service---and I plan on asking about that over the phone before even making an appointment.

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Spaghetina: Please enjoy your new car. Think more about how well the car was engineered and designed, how carefully it was built---and completely blot out the memory of the few days that car was in the hands of a complete reptile. Just imagine how happy that car is to be in your hands now.
Oh, I will certainly not be giving them any more of my business. The saleswoman had the nerve to call me today and leave me a voicemail asking for me to please leave her a '5' on everything when they contact me for a follow-up survey. I laughed on the inside when I heard that.

Morgan, do you have some advice about which procedures are better done by Honda? I've generally always taken my car back to the dealership to have work done because I figured they were at least moderately trustworthy. I don't know why I thought that because nothing else about dealerships are such, and I've heard/read that they make most of their money from service.

And thanks, guys! I will definitely enjoy the car! I already had a good 'ol time testing out the bluetooth phone integration last night, since I'm coming from a long line of cars lacking any kind of proverbial bells and/or whistles. I'm interested/nervous to see if any of the weird quirks/bugs that are showing up in other cars are going to show up in mine, but I hope they don't.
 
Old Sep 4, 2014 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by spaghetina
Morgan, do you have some advice about which procedures are better done by Honda? I've generally always taken my car back to the dealership to have work done because I figured they were at least moderately trustworthy. I don't know why I thought that because nothing else about dealerships are such, and I've heard/read that they make most of their money from service.

And thanks, guys! I will definitely enjoy the car! I already had a good 'ol time testing out the bluetooth phone integration last night, since I'm coming from a long line of cars lacking any kind of proverbial bells and/or whistles. I'm interested/nervous to see if any of the weird quirks/bugs that are showing up in other cars are going to show up in mine, but I hope they don't.
Comment about the service centers: If you have more than one dealership in reasonable proximity, just try another for service. If not, I wonder if that one has a better service department than sales -- though I'd wonder if the culture could run throughout. Another will probably be your best bet, and you can gauge how well they do on your first couple or several visits as you watch the services offered very carefully. I will defer to the other guys for more advice on service, as I've been a poor example in the past.

Bugs/quirks? I'm running Android, and while Bluetooth works well with it, I have found that voice dialing through the car is pretty finicky. I haven't done well at getting it to consistently figure out who I'm wanting to dial and which number (some want me to say "preferred" and others "cell" or "home"). I resort to just pressing the mic on my search button and voice dialing through the phone itself ("Call John Doe on Mobile").
 
Old Sep 4, 2014 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by spaghetina
Morgan, do you have some advice about which procedures are better done by Honda?
I ususally take my cars to an independent mechanic. During the first few visits, they are mostly adding fluids and doing filter changes and checking belts, etc. On the first visit, BEFORE they begin draining your engine oil, I would ask them, "After you're done draining the oil, would you please add a new crush washer and tighten the oil drain bolt to 29 foot pounds?" Watch and listen to his/her reaction. Do they look interested? Do they do that sort of thing all the time? Or do they say something like, "Lady, we just tighten' her down real good so you won't have to worry about it falling out down the road!" If you hear that, run like hell before they get their hands on your car!

During this period I tend to watch how they go about the work and notice the attitude of how they work. But mostly, I am keeping my eyes open for the type of work they do on other people's cars. Do they work on a lot of new cars? I would certainly ask if they maintain a number of Hondas. Do they perform more advanced service procedures?

I go to a shop where the "waiting room" consists of a line of chairs that is right at the head of the three vehicles that they are working on---just a few feet away! There is NO sign which reads, "Customers are not permitted in the service area..." The owner of the shop is working. You can listen to the banter between him and the other mechanics. There is usually an apprentice being brought along. Everything is ship shape. The entire shop shuts down for lunch at the same time, and any customers present are always asked if they would like some pizza or whatever and join with them in the meal. These are people who enjoy working together.

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No..... I won't share with you the name of my shop. I actually like that it is still not difficult to schedule an appointment. I sense that they are auditioning customers --- trying YOU out as a customer. Shops like this have no trouble keeping busy --- and they prefer customers who are polite, appreciative, and don't get in the way---but I've always been asked to come over and have a close up look at something they've turned up. I KNOW I am paying way less for service than I would at ANY new car dealer----and I never question a bill. They always will offer an estimate up front. You never leave there wondering, "What did they do?"
 
Old Sep 5, 2014 | 05:12 PM
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Finally pulled the trigger on a Red EX manual for my wife. OTD was ~$20,330 including about 1760 in sales tax, no other options or proctology packs.
 
Old Sep 5, 2014 | 05:21 PM
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So I finally got the last refund to my principal. Credit Life, Accident & Health, and Extended Warranty. About 4200 in refund.

The dealer didn't even process my application initially. a month later I called asking for the status, said they didn't even have it.

So they were trying to pull another one on me... but I harassed them so much they finally got it all processed.

Obviously I'm still upset, but happy that I have 4200 refunded to the principal so now I'm not spending 30,000 on a car worth much less.
 
Old Sep 6, 2014 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BMO
New member here! Just put a deposit down.
My OTD was $19856 for an EX CVT (no accessories) in central NC.
Price was $300 off MSRP + tax, title, license, doc fee.
Can you provide the info about the dealer you contact with?
Thabks
 
Old Sep 7, 2014 | 01:54 AM
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1. EX, CVT, White. No accessories
2. Findlay Honda in Henderson, NV
3. MSRP. $19,025
4. $18,900 + taxes and fees. Second car purchase with no trade. They gave 3 free oil changes which can be used on my Pilot or Fit
 
Old Sep 7, 2014 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Raziaar
So I finally got the last refund to my principal. Credit Life, Accident & Health, and Extended Warranty. About 4200 in refund.

The dealer didn't even process my application initially. a month later I called asking for the status, said they didn't even have it.

So they were trying to pull another one on me... but I harassed them so much they finally got it all processed.

Obviously I'm still upset, but happy that I have 4200 refunded to the principal so now I'm not spending 30,000 on a car worth much less.
Wow, you sound like a sleezy car stealer's wet dream, especially the F&I crudball who got his paws on you. On the other hand, if you're willing to bend over and assume the position, then you get what you get.

Sadly, you may have gotten the principal returned; however, I don't think the total financed amount will be reduced, so unless you dispense with the loan with absolute haste, you're still taking a beating unless your loan rate is literally 0.0%.

Live and learn. Next time you'll know how ruthless these people can be and you won't get screwed next time.
 

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Old Sep 7, 2014 | 06:21 PM
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Bought mine today

EX-L White
MSRP: $20,590
got $250 off MSRP ($20,340) through COSTCO program.
Dealer tried to sneak in a $198 film protection whatever. Had them remove it.
OTP price $$22,321. I'm in CA with 8% sales tax. No accessories, no nothing, just the car and no extended warranty (I cut them short on the sales pitch).
Was in and out of the dealer in 1hr., though I will get the car in 2 weeks (in-coming car). Took advantage of their .9% financing deal for 36 months.
 
Old Sep 8, 2014 | 02:19 AM
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Paid MSRP, but here's a Costco data point for you

1. EX, CVT, Aegean Blue. No Accessories on the financed deal.
2. Mountain View, CA (San Francisco Bay Area)
3. MSRP $19,025
4. MSRP (no trade in)

I felt fortunate to even get this Fit because they are so difficult to find in the SF Bay Area! I really wanted Aegean Blue. I got it 2 weeks after I put a deposit down; it was actually another person's "hold" but they ended up getting a Fit in a different color somewhere else. Supposedly, mine would have arrived a couple days later, but who knows with the way Honda's delivery service from Celaya, Mexico was faring?

I did their financing deal (0.99% for 0-36 months), which Honda still has going until Nov 3, 2014. This was better than my credit union, which could only offer 1.99%.

I added on splash guards outside of the financing deal. I turned down all the other deals like extended warranties for 5 more years at $2056 (they did have a discount of 20% applied b/c I was a AAA member) and a Simonized coating.

I also talked to the sales person at the authorized Costco dealership, but they didn't have any blue ones in the pipeline. They had 1 Fit (silver) on the lot when I visited them, but told me that it would be very difficult to "trade" with another dealership in the Costco authorized system because of the lack of inventory. When I called them back a couple days later, they had none in stock! So even though the Costco price was below MSRP, it wouldn't have helped without a vehicle!

For another data point on a 2015 Fit EX-CVT via Costco:
MSRP: $19025.00
Costco savings <589.19>
Subtotal: $18435.81

But then they had dealer installed accessories which they don't take off:
(Splashguards and Wheel locks) $250.00

So the price was $18685.81, or a $339.19 off the MSRP (before tax and license, etc).
Add the dealer fee of $80.00 and it's only $259.19 off the MSRP.

So for $259 off the MSRP with no available car from Costco, it wasn't worth it for me to wait for my Aegean Blue Fit to come in. Note: They won't quote anything over the phone. You have to go down in person. But even if you go down in person, they can't give you a hard copy quote if they don't have a Fit physically in stock, because they need the VIN #. Maybe it's different at other Costco dealers, but that was my experience.

I'm really glad I got my Fit and can finally join the ranks of proud new Fit owners! This forum has been great for passing along advice, providing encouragement, and giving data points! Thanks!
 
Old Sep 8, 2014 | 10:12 AM
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decided to go the online route to make a deal with the honda dealer

looking at the other posts this seems decent, or should i try to get them to go lower?


1. EX, CVT, Passion berry pearl. No accessories
2. DCH Honda in NJ
3. MSRP. $19,025
4. $18,496.84 + taxes and fees.

it's a lease, so my monthly payment is $224 plus tax
 
Old Sep 12, 2014 | 10:46 AM
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1. EX, CVT, Mystic Yellow. No Accessories or dealer adds (negotiated at time of order).
2. Lewisville, TX (Dallas TX Area)
3. MSRP $19,025
4. $20,507.47 Total Out-the-door

The total price is calculated as follows:

Selling Price: $19,025
Sales Tax: $1223.97
Tag/Registration Fees: $57.75
Other: $5.00
State Inspection: $23.75
Documentation Fee: $122.50
Facilitator Fee: $5.00
Road and Bridge: $11.50
Title Fee: $33.00

I will be doing a trade in which I was quoted $1500 for so I will save that plus $93.75 in sales tax.

The car is currently on a rail car being transported to my dealer and should arrive either today or early next week. It was built on Sept 2nd.

I ordered these Accessories from HandAaccessories.com:

Genuine Factory Honda cargo tray
Genuine Factory Honda rear bumper applique
Genuine Factory Honda Door Edge Film
Genuine Factory Honda wheel locks

for a total price of $214.98 including shipping.

I am in the process of ordering other items such as Bright LED Cargo Light ($2.39) and Blue Tooth OBD II mini-scanner ($6.59).

I am so stoked about my new 2015 Fit and really really hope I get the "it's in" call today.
 
Old Sep 12, 2014 | 11:23 AM
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I don't remember much, but I paid 17,025 OTD for a Black EX MT, no trade in.
 
Old Sep 12, 2014 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mercfh
I don't remember much, but I paid 17,025 OTD for a Black EX MT, no trade in.
wow!

18,225 as msrp... so you got the car for a VERY low price... almost into low 16,000 or lower...
 
Old Sep 12, 2014 | 02:46 PM
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Its like he bought it from the factory
 
Old Sep 13, 2014 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CIOWN
1. EX, CVT, Mystic Yellow. No Accessories or dealer adds (negotiated at time of order).
2. Lewisville, TX (Dallas TX Area)
3. MSRP $19,025
4. $20,507.47 Total Out-the-door

The total price is calculated as follows:

Selling Price: $19,025
Sales Tax: $1223.97
Tag/Registration Fees: $57.75
Other: $5.00
State Inspection: $23.75
Documentation Fee: $122.50
Facilitator Fee: $5.00
Road and Bridge: $11.50
Title Fee: $33.00

I will be doing a trade in which I was quoted $1500 for so I will save that plus $93.75 in sales tax.

The car is currently on a rail car being transported to my dealer and should arrive either today or early next week. It was built on Sept 2nd.

I ordered these Accessories from HandAaccessories.com:

Genuine Factory Honda cargo tray
Genuine Factory Honda rear bumper applique
Genuine Factory Honda Door Edge Film
Genuine Factory Honda wheel locks

for a total price of $214.98 including shipping.

I am in the process of ordering other items such as Bright LED Cargo Light ($2.39) and Blue Tooth OBD II mini-scanner ($6.59).

I am so stoked about my new 2015 Fit and really really hope I get the "it's in" call today.
thanks for the thorough break down, hopefully these will start selling for below MSRP soon.
 
Old Sep 13, 2014 | 10:51 PM
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$16,514 LX Manual

$16,514 LX Manual Steel Metallic + All Weather Mats, Cargo Tray, and Mud Guards included. Paid cash. St Louis Bommarito Honda.
 
Old Sep 19, 2014 | 04:42 PM
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This post helped me so much. Thanks, y'all!

1. PBP Fit EX CVT
2. NYC
3. MSRP/$19,025.
4. 18,825 + 1,670.72 tax (8.875%) + $10 inspection + $235 registration + $12.50 tire fee (?) + $75 document fee = $20,828.22 OTD. $1,000 down / rest financing.

Dealer offered $150 off MSRP + wheel locks, $50 off + all-weather mats or just $200 off MSRP. Went with the last one.
 

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