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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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I pre-ordered the intercooler kit. Hopefully I can get it here and installed before October 11th...there's a dyno day in New Jersey that I'd like to make it to.
You have the AT kit right? Let us know what kind of difference it makes when you get it on
 
Old Oct 1, 2009 | 03:09 PM
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i wonder how well that intercooler kit would work with a turbo?
 
Old Oct 1, 2009 | 03:09 PM
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You have the AT kit right? Let us know what kind of difference it makes when you get it on
Not sure if it'll make too much of a difference anymore. Temp's around here are in the low 60's during the day and dropping.
 
Old Oct 1, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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im still interested to see the #'s you make wave, besides the exhaust type im running the same mods as you.
 
Old Oct 1, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Wave
Not sure if it'll make too much of a difference anymore. Temp's around here are in the low 60's during the day and dropping.

i'm just anxious to see your a/t dyno in general! granted i wouldn't run a test pipe like you have, but given the usual gains with it, a/t guys will kinda know where they stand.

are you taking it to a proper mustang dyno or an optimisitc dynapack?
 
Old Oct 1, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by eldaino
i'm just anxious to see your a/t dyno in general! granted i wouldn't run a test pipe like you have, but given the usual gains with it, a/t guys will kinda know where they stand.

are you taking it to a proper mustang dyno or an optimisitc dynapack?
Who told you a Mustang dyno is proper?

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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by eldaino
i'm just anxious to see your a/t dyno in general! granted i wouldn't run a test pipe like you have, but given the usual gains with it, a/t guys will kinda know where they stand.

are you taking it to a proper mustang dyno or an optimisitc dynapack?
all dynos have there pros and cons and there % of error. As long as you go to the same dyno for all you runs you will have a good idea what each mod has done for you
 
Old Oct 2, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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Currently in the process of scrounging up funds for the intercooler kit. I just drove for an hour straight with IAT at 195F+ in heavy traffic, seems like that is going to be common this Fall here.
 
Old Oct 2, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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your air intake temps are almost 200? shit mine never get more then 140 with heavy driving.
 

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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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your air intake temps are almost 200? shit my never get more then 140 with heavy driving.
The sun has been extremely hot the last few days - today I was driving in heavy traffic for an hour, and yes it was 195-210F the whole time. Car had no torque whatsoever, I wish the sun would go away for a while. Average IAT these days has been anywhere between 150-180F just normal driving.
 
Old Oct 2, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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Woah... With my FMIC I never, EVER see higher than 100F. Thats on a 90F day, during an autocross. You guys have some wicked IATs!
 
Old Oct 2, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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wow, I dont think even in the middle of summer my IAT got that high. I see why some of you guys really wanted to get the inter cooler. My IATs are ushaly around 120ish
 
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Cmon guys...

You need to realize the IAT sensor gets heat soak in traffic. Minimal air is flowing over it and the engine heat heats up everything under the hood. MNFit is reporting accurate numbers for a non-intercooled system.

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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 08:58 PM
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The 195-210F is going 15-20 mph in the baking hot sun, with lots of stop and go - as OJR said, minimal air flowing through to keep temps down, so it gets pretty high when the sun is burning hot.

I am not kidding about it being 150F+ average where I live and drive (but as I've only been using this kit since April, hot weather is all I've been in), I only see sub-150F temps on cool nights or cool mornings. As others have commented that their IAT's are usually much lower than my figures, it's obvious that climate and temperatures are not the same in say, Minnesota and Socal.

Will the TMIC kit help cool temps (at least a little bit) even in said 15-20 mph traffic? Is that too slow to expect any benefit at that speed?
 

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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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I don't think the inter cooler is going to make a bit of difference to lower intake air temperature in slow moving stop and go urban driving..... Under hood heat build up is still going to be just as high unless it can get out..... The only way out for the heat is under the car..... Heat rises.
 
Old Oct 2, 2009 | 11:30 PM
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I don't think the inter cooler is going to make a bit of difference to lower intake air temperature in slow moving stop and go urban driving..... Under hood heat build up is still going to be just as high unless it can get out..... The only way out for the heat is under the car..... Heat rises.
Well I know that much regarding stop&go, but I was wondering if it'd make a difference in traffic that's 15-20 mph - slow moving but not stopping much if at all. Like if you were going on the highway at a 15 mph crawl w/o stopping - cause that's when having to stay in the low gears constantly really heats up the engine and gets the IAT up.

I wouldn't be getting the TMIC kit for that specific purpose, but it'd be nice to know if it would make a difference in those low speed situations where I'm seeing the highest temperatures.
 
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 12:24 AM
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I am sure that there would be a difference but to what extent I don't know.... The louvers that I mentioned to you have good reports of lowering under hood, intake, A/C and engine operating temperatures when even sitting still.... They divert the hot air toward the center of the wind shield and wouldn't affect the air flow entering the I/C..... I had a problem with the powder coating on the ones I received and have a set of non coated ones plus a pair of the fender mounted ones on the way at no charge and a refund for the difference in price of the unfinished aluminum louvers..... I am going to have do some sugery on the inside of the hood with a die cutter and a 3"X1/16" blade but I believe there will be a large enough drop in heat that the air entering the S/C will be cooled enough to make a noticeable difference at lower speeds....I am thinking about using the fender louvers on the back bumper as diffusers that will direct the air pressure build up to the sides of the car.
 
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 01:15 AM
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I had to send my louvers back but have another set coming in the middle of next week and whenever I am able to install them I'll let you know if they help..... Any kind of oil or transmission cooler and running the A/C adds to the problem.... I have read of 47 degree drops in ambient temperature under the hood, 20, degree water temp drop, and cool A/C performance while idling in 117 degree desert heat..... You might also get a lower temperature thermostat for the radiator and fan, also some Red Line or other brand of water wetter....We are still seeing temperatures in the mid 90s but less of them...Even at 90 my car runs better if there is a cloud cover and is a blast on cool 75 to 80 degree nights with humidity in the 90% area..... I can cruise on roads with rolling hills with very little throttle at 100 MPH if the temperature is below 85 and accelerate at that speed at 1/2 throttle..... Heat really hurts small displacement engines.
 
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 01:15 AM
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Yeah I'd like to know how that's turning out / turned out for you with the louvers. Let me know through PM or something (so this doesn't go off topic in the thread) once you got it all set up, I'd love to see it.
 
Old Oct 4, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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In case anyone misunderstood my temperatures as being caused by the KWSC - that's not what I meant, I was merely stating the facts (the temperatures) caused by combination of hot weather & supercharger heat together. Just because my IAT got over 200F doesn't mean I'm saying it's the KWSC that is causing it; just clarifying myself in case anyone thought that was what I was getting at.

Good example of the KWSC's low temps: today was very windy and chilly, probably around 70F ambient temperature - I took the car on multiple 80 mph runs on the highway, and up to 100 mph on a flat stretch of empty highway, and the highest IAT recorded today even right after the run up to 100mph was 135F. At the end of the hour long trip home it eventually reached 155F but that was the highest it got today. I'd say that's pretty low for boosting so much for so long on the highway?
 



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