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From Fumoto. Dont need to buy crush washers for the drain plug anymore. The valve is locked with a plastic lock, and I bought the hose kit to direct the drain oil right into the catch pan I have.
Catch can at 5k miles. Not very much, smells like oil, maybe a bit of fuel, but thick like oil. Its doing its job!
Nice, loan it to your pal another 6 months and hint the car would be a handling beast with some wider and lighter rims. On a serious note do you feel any difference with the strut bar ? If you'd like to sell the intake I would be interested in taking it off of your hands.
Seriously thinking about switching back to oem intake as I don’t see how the aem intake is giving the car any benefit. The stock intake has air duct connected from the front. I think all the aem intake does is sucking hot air from the engine ?
go back to the stock intake, and report back on your power gains / impressions
After my latest wash i noticed my rubber side skirts’ dbl sided tape was starting to become more visible. So i decided to take them off rather than wait for them to fall off completely. I’ve seen ppl on youtube make skirts out of rain gutters so i thought i’d give it a go. This weekend was a mess trying to fit these things properly since i refuse to get rid of my splash guards. Anyone remember the scene in The Force Awakens when Kylo tells that older villager “Look how old you’ve become” well I can just hear ppl saying “Look how ghetto you’ve become” Lol. Im on my third attempt to try to make these things work. I don’t want to drill into the metal but double sided tape can only last so long and the only holes down there are thos weird plugs covered with the undercoating. With such an uneven crooked surface area i’m running out of ideas.
Please let me know your thoughts on this nightmare...
The only issue with the Fumoto (and why I removed them from my 3 cars) is that they leave up to 0.3 L of oil along the bottom of the pan. After 8 years - my old car was quite sludgy. So unless you plan to tilt the car to drain that sludge, I would increase your OCIs or decide if the Fumoto is right for you. The RX-7 group and Miata group members found the same issue.
The only issue with the Fumoto (and why I removed them from my 3 cars) is that they leave up to 0.3 L of oil along the bottom of the pan. After 8 years - my old car was quite sludgy. So unless you plan to tilt the car to drain that sludge, I would increase your OCIs or decide if the Fumoto is right for you. The RX-7 group and Miata group members found the same issue.
Really good thing to point out. Never had trouble with a standard drain plug. Also I think maybe you meant DECREASE OCI's with a fumoto installed
The only issue with the Fumoto (and why I removed them from my 3 cars) is that they leave up to 0.3 L of oil along the bottom of the pan. After 8 years - my old car was quite sludgy. So unless you plan to tilt the car to drain that sludge, I would increase your OCIs or decide if the Fumoto is right for you. The RX-7 group and Miata group members found the same issue.
just so I fully understand .... you're saying ... the oem drain plug allows for ALL oil to drain. but the fumoto has threads that somehow allow the oil pan to accumulate 0.3L of oil?
would you kindly share with us please, the source of this info? I'd like to read up on it.
would you kindly share with us please, the source of this info? I'd like to read up on it. thanks
There's really no need to read anything. Just look at that picture of the Fumoto valve and you can see the thick lip on the threaded portion. That lip on the inside of the drain hole will prevent all the oil from draining and the biggest problem is that it's the oil at the very bottom of the pan, yes the sludgiest part which won't drain. How much oil? Don't know but probably not a lot. Just enough though that when I was considering installing one of these devices many years ago on another car I immediately saw the problem with these devices and walked away. When I do an oil change I want all the old dirty oil out.
ok I think I understand. so its the sheer length of the threads, being longer than the oem plug , which puts it higher UP inside the drain pan, and not allowing all the oil to drain out?
just so I fully understand .... you're saying ... the oem drain plug allows for ALL oil to drain. but the fumoto has threads that somehow allow the oil pan to accumulate 0.3L of oil?
would you kindly share with us please, the source of this info? I'd like to read up on it.
thanks
Yes see the posts in rx8club. A google search of fumoto rx8club will highlight this.
The only issue with the Fumoto (and why I removed them from my 3 cars) is that they leave up to 0.3 L of oil along the bottom of the pan. After 8 years - my old car was quite sludgy. So unless you plan to tilt the car to drain that sludge, I would increase your OCIs or decide if the Fumoto is right for you. The RX-7 group and Miata group members found the same issue.
My old car was a 2002 CRV now with 231055 miles. The drain plug was along a beveled edge of the pan.
There's really no need to read anything. Just look at that picture of the Fumoto valve and you can see the thick lip on the threaded portion. That lip on the inside of the drain hole will prevent all the oil from draining and the biggest problem is that it's the oil at the very bottom of the pan, yes the sludgiest part which won't drain. How much oil? Don't know but probably not a lot. Just enough though that when I was considering installing one of these devices many years ago on another car I immediately saw the problem with these devices and walked away. When I do an oil change I want all the old dirty oil out.
We RX8CLUB members couldn’t figure out how to cut a notch in the Fumoto to allow more of the inner stem to allow that retentate to drain. Clean oil was necessary for the rotary apex seal lubrication.
The only issue with the Fumoto (and why I removed them from my 3 cars) is that they leave up to 0.3 L of oil along the bottom of the pan. After 8 years - my old car was quite sludgy. So unless you plan to tilt the car to drain that sludge, I would increase your OCIs or decide if the Fumoto is right for you. The RX-7 group and Miata group members found the same issue.
i was just about to pull the trigger a couple weeks ago and get a Fumoto...then thought about this potential issue along with possibly scraping it on speed bumps. (didnt get to the point of researching it officially). i was first made aware of this issue when i installed a drain valve on the bottom of my catch can...then realized how much oil did not drain thanks to the drain threads protruding upwards through the bottom of catch can. they only stuck up about 3 mm...but left probably 2 or 3 tablespoons of oil in the can. imagine what would be left behind in an oil pan.
it would be nice to not put wear n tear on pan threads with oil changes....but i guess its the lesser of the 2 evils.
The wear on pan threads is insignificant - I've had cars I've owned for decades and done I don't know how many oil changes - but you have to be very careful to tighten the drain plugs properly and not over torque them and strip the threads.
I changed my Acura Integra GS-R and CRV oils religiously at around 3-5K miles. I owned those cars for more than 15 years/car. Never once did I:
- strip or fail to re-thread the oil pan bolt
- have leaks (used the same washer and torqued it to spec each time)
- use a powered tool to take off or add the bolt to the pan
I always hand thread bolts back in (thank you Dad for that nugget) and rotate them back and forth to ensure the threads are aligned.
The Fumoto is really a time saver for those that change the oils often, race, or have a fleet of cars. I started with a Fumoto on my Honda CR-V then my Mazda RX-8 due to my 1000 mile OCI. While it saved time with that frequency, a RX-8club member noticed long-term sludge in the bottom of the pan when he removed the Fumoto valve. I've seem many comments on the RX, MX5, and WRX boards. Then I checked my CRV and found enough sludge had built up that it was not worth it for my other cars. I removed them. YMMV.