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ok im new to the tuning scene but will the k20z1 fit into the fit, secoundly will the 6 speed maunual also fit? how much if any fab work would i have to do? what other equipment would i need and what would the rough price be? i have an 07 fit sport and it needs a serious kick in the pants.
As I know all the K-Series engine will fit in the Fit, in addition the tran. will fit also, but the tran req. to cut out the farm to make it fit (read the whole post and you will find out what gettinfit did on his car). The price roughly close to 10K, but it is depend what you want to do and what part you use!!!
ok im new to the tuning scene but will the k20z1 fit into the fit, secoundly will the 6 speed maunual also fit? how much if any fab work would i have to do? what other equipment would i need and what would the rough price be? i have an 07 fit sport and it needs a serious kick in the pants.
With the hasport GDk20 mount kit yes they both will fit. fab work really is not that much at all, just a small notch in frame, and that can be done with a hole saw, or recriporcating saw, then just bend a few brake lines out of the way and mount the engine. thats all. the hard part is not to hurry lol
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has hasport released the wiring harness yet and also hondata with kpro???
i know the mounts and axles are already available. other than that what else is needed besides engine and trans. Shift linkage???
As I know all the K-Series engine will fit in the Fit, in addition the tran. will fit also, but the tran req. to cut out the farm to make it fit (read the whole post and you will find out what gettinfit did on his car). The price roughly close to 10K, but it is depend what you want to do and what part you use!!!
That much? I guess I won't be getting a fit after all.
That much? I guess I won't be getting a fit after all.
I don't know what should I say. Yes you are right 10K to mod. the car sound little crazy but if that's what you want, I don't think the $$ will STOP you.
I don't know what should I say. Yes you are right 10K to mod. the car sound little crazy but if that's what you want, I don't think the $$ will STOP you.
Well, it's something I really want, however my issue is I have an 07 si right now and I could part it out, sell the car (or trade so I could get a new fit faster) and then have to pay 10k for a swap and then deal with the suspension so that it would beat what I had before, or I could keep what I have now which is almost halfway paid off and has suspension, and boltons and take some of my saved money and get a s/c and some better tires. I just can't figure out which would be better for me. Plus, on the fit forums, it's harder to get answers b/c there's not as many people nor as many enthusiasts. I would love to do the fit w/ swap and be unique, but I'm just not sure. It seems to be the wrong choice.
So is there a complete K20 swap package with all the parts, ECUs, bolts, and detailed instructions that just needs to be bolted on being sold by Honda Tuning specialist?
Someone should really do that. I swear if they did, I'll buy a Fit for sure!
Who else thinks it's a good idea? *I'm pretty sure the few ones that did the swap and did lots of research would say that "If they did that, everyone will have one and we won't be unique anymore..." But, to swap noobs like me, it would be an awesome thing.
So is there a complete K20 swap package with all the parts, ECUs, bolts, and detailed instructions that just needs to be bolted on being sold by Honda Tuning specialist?
Someone should really do that. I swear if they did, I'll buy a Fit for sure!
Who else thinks it's a good idea? *I'm pretty sure the few ones that did the swap and did lots of research would say that "If they did that, everyone will have one and we won't be unique anymore..." But, to swap noobs like me, it would be an awesome thing.
I'm not familiar with Honda Tuning specialists, but Hasport has everything you need for the swap available.
Mounts,
Axles,
Wiring,
ECU K-Pro (in conjunction with Hondata)
Header
I am doing a k20z3 swap in my VBP fit sport auto. Now I know you have to cut the frame rail a little on the drivers side for the trans to fit right. Also you need to move the hard brake lines out of the way. As well as the abs module. That will come close to your idler pulley. As far as using a hondada k-pro i would recommend it. Your also going to have to use your stock fit ecu if you want to retain the fit's gauges and a/c. I know that the intake manifold from the rsx type s is the best one to use. If not the k20z3 can be used with an adaptor that I believe hasport sells. Also you can use the trans from an ep3 si, a rsx 5 speed, a rsx type s 6 speed or the civic si 6 speed. I know the 6 speed from a tsx will not work. It is a costly swap. You will also need the custom axles as well. Then you have to work on braking, suspension, wheels, and tires to compensate for the extra power. If you do do the swap the car will rip!!! I can't wait till mine's done but then again I did not even start yet. Going to pick up my k20z3 bottom end on friday along with all the pulley's and accessories and the intake manifold. I just have to get the head and trans. My swap will not be done over night. I plan on sleeving the block. I plan on head work and different cam shafts. I am keeping it N/A. Going with a 12.5 compression piston and I am going to try and retain the A/C. Which I know can be done. Good with your swap. You can get info from FITswap.com and K20A.org .:. The K Series Source . Honda / Acura K20a k24a Engine Forum.
Actually the rbc intake mani flows better then the prb, but as far as fitment issues the prb should give you more room for the radiator to intake mani clearance as the rbc extends forward more.
Last edited by Fa1; 08-08-2008 at 06:58 PM.
Reason: wrong intake code
will someone explain the ecu setup to me and how it can be down? is there a harness being made or can i have one made?
The ECU monitors signals from sensors and controls output signals to not only your engine but to a number of other devices based on programmed calculations done by a very straight forward complex of digital state electronics that make up switches, rheostats, and ratio controls that are specific to every engine. There is no simply changing harness connectors.
If you are switching engines you will need to obtain an ECU for your replacement engine with the connectors and using wirng diagrams run the input connections to existing or added sensors. The output connections must of course mate with your engine.
You need the ecu from the engine you are putting in. Or get a hondata k-pro to run the k motor's I-vtec. Also if you want to use the fit's gauges you have to use both ecu's. I don't know but hondata is working on a jumper harness for this swap. If you don't go this route then you have to get some after market gauges. I'm sure hondata will come out with it soon enough. Because I will be needing it too.
I am doing a k20z3 swap in my VBP fit sport auto. Now I know you have to cut the frame rail a little on the drivers side for the trans to fit right. Also you need to move the hard brake lines out of the way. As well as the abs module. That will come close to your idler pulley. As far as using a hondada k-pro i would recommend it. Your also going to have to use your stock fit ecu if you want to retain the fit's gauges and a/c. I know that the intake manifold from the rsx type s is the best one to use. If not the k20z3 can be used with an adaptor that I believe hasport sells. Also you can use the trans from an ep3 si, a rsx 5 speed, a rsx type s 6 speed or the civic si 6 speed. I know the 6 speed from a tsx will not work. It is a costly swap. You will also need the custom axles as well. Then you have to work on braking, suspension, wheels, and tires to compensate for the extra power. If you do do the swap the car will rip!!! I can't wait till mine's done but then again I did not even start yet. Going to pick up my k20z3 bottom end on friday along with all the pulley's and accessories and the intake manifold. I just have to get the head and trans. My swap will not be done over night. I plan on sleeving the block. I plan on head work and different cam shafts. I am keeping it N/A. Going with a 12.5 compression piston and I am going to try and retain the A/C. Which I know can be done. Good with your swap. You can get info from FITswap.com and K20A.org .:. The K Series Source . Honda / Acura K20a k24a Engine Forum.
Your going to have to take into account the different transmission motor mount too. the a/t mount bolts up differently to the frame than the m/t mount (stock). the holes for the m/t mount do not exist on the a/t frame so the hasport motor mounts and adapter will not fit without drilling and tapping and probably welding that motor mount in place. the other 2 should bolt up.