Quality Issues with new Fit
#301
Drops of Water in the Tail Lights
We had unusually high humid and rainy weather recently. I noticed this inside the tail lights. Both lights have moisture inside. I called the dealer and was told to bring it in. Unfortunately, I was not able to do this immediately. When I checked again the next day, the water droplets were gone.
Had anything like this happened to other 2015 owners? Aren't the lights suppose to be sealed?
Had anything like this happened to other 2015 owners? Aren't the lights suppose to be sealed?
#303
If you've got documentation showing that the dealer has been given the requisite number of chances to repair the car, I'd look up a lemon law lawyer and begin the process of getting them to buy the car back. It sounds like the recurring TPMS issue is going to be the one this'll hinge on, with the other stuff being additional weight on your side.
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#304
Since we're both in the same area, this has not happened to my LX (yet). Your right, the lights are supposed to be sealed.
There could have been initial moisture accumulated on the part at the factory so happening ONCE should be the most you should be seeing.
If it happens again, follow other's advise and take pics. Then, bring it back to the dealership.
Mahalo and congrats on the new wheels!!!
#305
Pictures Not Enough
I took the car to the dealer today and this is what I got when I showed them the pictures on the smart phone. The service Manager said, “Come back when the moisture is present inside the taillights. The possibility of all four lights having moisture at the same time makes it highly unlikely.”
The water droplet has now evaporated. I guess I will need to keep my eye on the taillights when we have the same weather condition occur again in the future. Perhaps, if there are enough complaints about the moisture accumulation problem that happened to my Fit, the rest of the Fit owners who experience this issue will receive a better reception at the dealer.
The water droplet has now evaporated. I guess I will need to keep my eye on the taillights when we have the same weather condition occur again in the future. Perhaps, if there are enough complaints about the moisture accumulation problem that happened to my Fit, the rest of the Fit owners who experience this issue will receive a better reception at the dealer.
#306
I took the car to the dealer today and this is what I got when I showed them the pictures on the smart phone. The service Manager said, “Come back when the moisture is present inside the taillights. The possibility of all four lights having moisture at the same time makes it highly unlikely.”
The water droplet has now evaporated. I guess I will need to keep my eye on the taillights when we have the same weather condition occur again in the future. Perhaps, if there are enough complaints about the moisture accumulation problem that happened to my Fit, the rest of the Fit owners who experience this issue will receive a better reception at the dealer.
The water droplet has now evaporated. I guess I will need to keep my eye on the taillights when we have the same weather condition occur again in the future. Perhaps, if there are enough complaints about the moisture accumulation problem that happened to my Fit, the rest of the Fit owners who experience this issue will receive a better reception at the dealer.
PS few understand that engines draw and expel water vapor in the same way which is where water can contaminate the oil.
Unless you have a lot of water its probably not a concern.
#307
So, my driver side window started making that loud buzzing noise again. Like the window is off it's track, and it made me a little worred, so I checked the other windows.
Can anyone else move their back passenger windows with their hand? I was cleaning mine today, and I was rather surprised by how much the thing moved back and forth as I scrubbed it.
Also, I'm not sure if my passenger airbag is working correctly or not. The passenger airbag light in the middle of the dashboard stays off, even when there isn't a passenger in the car.
Can anyone else move their back passenger windows with their hand? I was cleaning mine today, and I was rather surprised by how much the thing moved back and forth as I scrubbed it.
Also, I'm not sure if my passenger airbag is working correctly or not. The passenger airbag light in the middle of the dashboard stays off, even when there isn't a passenger in the car.
Last edited by stellgod; 11-08-2014 at 09:05 PM.
#308
So, my driver side window started making that loud buzzing noise again. Like the window is off it's track, and it made me a little worred, so I checked the other windows.
Can anyone else move their back passenger windows with their hand? I was cleaning mine today, and I was rather surprised by how much the thing moved back and forth as I scrubbed it.
Also, I'm not sure if my passenger airbag is working correctly or not. The passenger airbag light in the middle of the dashboard stays off, even when there isn't a passenger in the car.
Can anyone else move their back passenger windows with their hand? I was cleaning mine today, and I was rather surprised by how much the thing moved back and forth as I scrubbed it.
Also, I'm not sure if my passenger airbag is working correctly or not. The passenger airbag light in the middle of the dashboard stays off, even when there isn't a passenger in the car.
#309
...but remains off if the seat is empty.
#310
I could be wrong, but I believe the airbag only turns itself off if there is abnormal weight in the front seat. So nothing on the seat would mean it would still be activated.
#311
http://cpsboard.org/cps/wp-content/u...tic-On-Off.pdf
#313
It's from a Honda PDF file.
If no one is riding in the front passenger’s seat, the airbag will be automatically shut off, but the indicator will not come on.
#314
There is nothing wrong with your lights or housings. The first night I had my car we drove in the rain, after the dealer had the car washed. When I got home, there was condensation across the entire housing of both headlights, which was obviously extremely concerning on my hour old car (I can totally relate to how you feel). I was reading the manual that night and came across this passage on page 402, titled Fogged Exterior Light Lens:
"The inside lenses of exterior lights (headlights, brake lights etc.) may fog temporarily if you have driven in the rain, or after the vehicle has been run through a car wash. Dew condensation also may build up inside the lenses when there is a significant enough difference between the ambient and inside lens temperatures (similar to vehicle windows fogging up in rainy conditions). These conditions are natural processes, not structural design problems in the exterior lights.
Lens design characteristics may result in moisture developing on the light lens frame surfaces. This also is not a malfunction.
However, if you see large amounts water accumulation, or large water drop building up inside the lenses, have your vehicle inspected by a dealer."
In my own experience, my lights cleared up and it hasn't happened again (I also live in Florida where the humidity is usually 85%). Judging by your pictures, you're fine.
"The inside lenses of exterior lights (headlights, brake lights etc.) may fog temporarily if you have driven in the rain, or after the vehicle has been run through a car wash. Dew condensation also may build up inside the lenses when there is a significant enough difference between the ambient and inside lens temperatures (similar to vehicle windows fogging up in rainy conditions). These conditions are natural processes, not structural design problems in the exterior lights.
Lens design characteristics may result in moisture developing on the light lens frame surfaces. This also is not a malfunction.
However, if you see large amounts water accumulation, or large water drop building up inside the lenses, have your vehicle inspected by a dealer."
In my own experience, my lights cleared up and it hasn't happened again (I also live in Florida where the humidity is usually 85%). Judging by your pictures, you're fine.
#315
Washing the car again... funny how I always find things when I wash the car.
There is some kind of rust or discoloration of the chrome strip on the back on the car... This is just a picture of one spot, there are several. Not sure if it could be rust, as I don't think plastic covered in chrome can rust, but it is definitely permanently marked... It was not there a month ago.
Here is my "fix" for the leaking rubber seal, and hard to close passenger side door. Until I get it to a dealership again, so they can fix it.
And just for kicks, some picture of panel fitment on my front bumper, because it fits so well...
There is some kind of rust or discoloration of the chrome strip on the back on the car... This is just a picture of one spot, there are several. Not sure if it could be rust, as I don't think plastic covered in chrome can rust, but it is definitely permanently marked... It was not there a month ago.
Here is my "fix" for the leaking rubber seal, and hard to close passenger side door. Until I get it to a dealership again, so they can fix it.
And just for kicks, some picture of panel fitment on my front bumper, because it fits so well...
#316
Bigbadvoodooguru, I am curious to know what your dealer says about the panel fitment for your front bumper. Mine looks similar after the dealer did the front bumper upgrade. The dealer tried to fix it without taking the whole bumper apart again, but without success. Looks like it is something a body shop will need to handle. I have a case open with Honda, but am debating whether to pursue it or not, since it's not that bad, and I am not sure I want everythnig taken apart and put back together again. Not sure what I'll end up with (cure may be worse than sickness)?
#317
I don't know what they will do, I haven't taken it in yet. I'm going to try another dealer to see if they will fix my misaligned doors, again, as well as the long list of other issues.
Lemon law should have a rule in it, if a consumer has to take a vehicle in to the dealership a double-digit number of times within the first 6 months of ownership, they should actually you know, fix the problems.
Lemon law should have a rule in it, if a consumer has to take a vehicle in to the dealership a double-digit number of times within the first 6 months of ownership, they should actually you know, fix the problems.
#318
Bigbadvoodooguru,
We are sorry to hear about your ongoing issues with your vehicle. We are hopeful that the dealership would be able to address the concerns with the best of their ability. If you need further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Thank you,
Jonathan
We are sorry to hear about your ongoing issues with your vehicle. We are hopeful that the dealership would be able to address the concerns with the best of their ability. If you need further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Thank you,
Jonathan
#319
There is nothing wrong with your lights or housings. The first night I had my car we drove in the rain, after the dealer had the car washed. When I got home, there was condensation across the entire housing of both headlights, which was obviously extremely concerning on my hour old car (I can totally relate to how you feel). I was reading the manual that night and came across this passage on page 402, titled Fogged Exterior Light Lens:
"The inside lenses of exterior lights (headlights, brake lights etc.) may fog temporarily if you have driven in the rain, or after the vehicle has been run through a car wash. Dew condensation also may build up inside the lenses when there is a significant enough difference between the ambient and inside lens temperatures (similar to vehicle windows fogging up in rainy conditions). These conditions are natural processes, not structural design problems in the exterior lights.
Lens design characteristics may result in moisture developing on the light lens frame surfaces. This also is not a malfunction.
However, if you see large amounts water accumulation, or large water drop building up inside the lenses, have your vehicle inspected by a dealer."
In my own experience, my lights cleared up and it hasn't happened again (I also live in Florida where the humidity is usually 85%). Judging by your pictures, you're fine.
"The inside lenses of exterior lights (headlights, brake lights etc.) may fog temporarily if you have driven in the rain, or after the vehicle has been run through a car wash. Dew condensation also may build up inside the lenses when there is a significant enough difference between the ambient and inside lens temperatures (similar to vehicle windows fogging up in rainy conditions). These conditions are natural processes, not structural design problems in the exterior lights.
Lens design characteristics may result in moisture developing on the light lens frame surfaces. This also is not a malfunction.
However, if you see large amounts water accumulation, or large water drop building up inside the lenses, have your vehicle inspected by a dealer."
In my own experience, my lights cleared up and it hasn't happened again (I also live in Florida where the humidity is usually 85%). Judging by your pictures, you're fine.