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Old Dec 18, 2012 | 11:45 AM
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Really digging these DOT-spec push-to-lock fittings. Especially compared to the plastic/nylon junk I'm used to using for meth systems.

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These are used primarily on high-pressure airlines for semi-truck brakes. I'll be using them for vacuum/boost controlled devices as well as the meth system.
 

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Old Dec 18, 2012 | 11:48 AM
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Hey SB, hows it goin?

I'm hoping 4-5 weeks! A bit over budget so dyno time may have to come a bit later in the spring.
On vacation this week and enjoying the peace and quiet. It looks like the car is coming along really nicely. Cant wait to see the finished pictures.
 
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 12:04 PM
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I need a vacation lol

We're getting down to the small stuff. Almost time to test electric and fluid systems.

Trying to determine when I will have a chance to change the springs out, and then swap the new cams in and put her on the rollers.

This thing should make 500+ whp with boost in the low 20s lol
 
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DiamondStarMonsters
I need a vacation lol

We're getting down to the small stuff. Almost time to test electric and fluid systems.

Trying to determine when I will have a chance to change the springs out, and then swap the new cams in and put her on the rollers.

This thing should make 500+ whp with boost in the low 20s lol
That would be a understatement. Have you decided what fuel your gonna use? E98 is available by the drum and not as hard to get.
 
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 12:25 PM
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Well we have E85 locally available, and that should help me stretch the injectors a bit compared to nearly straight ethanol.

The 3 meth nozzles will work to that effect as well.

The crazy high redline should bump that whp figure, even if I keep torque low.

A mere 350wtq equates to 685whp @ 10250rpm lol
 
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DiamondStarMonsters
Well we have E85 locally available, and that should help me stretch the injectors a bit compared to nearly straight ethanol.

The 3 meth nozzles will work to that effect as well.

The crazy high redline should bump that whp figure, even if I keep torque low.

A mere 350wtq equates to 685whp @ 10250rpm lol
I forgot about the meth. E85 is a better choice but you don't know how long its been sitting in the tank at the station unless your getting it by the drum.

You also might be able to use pump gas with that meth until you go to the track.
 
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Haven't gotten around to adding the second fuel rail so I can run a small set of primary injectors.. so I'm going straight to E85 with these 1450cc injectors to help idle and part throttle. They aren't exactly linear in response at smaller pulse-widths so the E85 really helps because of the larger fuel demand on the bigger squirters.

Soon I'll be adding another set, so I can run stock 450cc injectors and then put some Injector Dynamics 2200cc injectors on the second rail... for a total of 11 injectors.

1 on the pre-turbo intake tube, 1 at the turbo discharge and 1 at the throttle body. Then 8 on the intake manifold.

Meth injectors will be boost-referenced and come on relatively late, driven by a seperate computer, the Snow Perfomance progressive controller.

The 8 main fuel injectors will use the small injectors up till about 80% IDC and I will be likely using the 450s on the primary at first.. so around 200whp is where the second set will kick in. But I have a set of 850s and the 1450s on hand.

So worst case scenario, If I max out the 1450's and the 450's, which would be somewhere around the high 700 whp range on E85.. I can swap in the 850's and run those as a primary with 1450 secondary. This would take me to around 1000whp, if the bottom end survives that much .. the turbo still should not be maxed out at that point and depending on what my combined (boost + base) fuel pressure is I may be able to just turn up the regulator to squeeze out some more.

If not, then I have to bite the bullet and pick up some 2150s or 2200s

All of this is based on fuel requirements not involving the meth system. I don't want to have to rely on the meth/water to provide fuel to keep me from going lean in the event boost runs away before I can get off the loud pedal.

It will certainly help when it is on, but it is primarily for charge cooling at very high boost and expanding the compressor map. I'm designing a 20% fudge factor with the fuel system(s) for margin of safety. Which is tough to do at those fuel pressures and power levels on an electric pump.

Next stop may be a mechanical waterman or aeromotive pump
 

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Old Dec 18, 2012 | 01:04 PM
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Man that is a lot of fuel. I am trying to remember what the K20 turbo motor had that made 550 hp. The injectors did look like solenoids but I don't think they were that big and we were using C16.
 
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ID1000s are popular in tuner cars on race gas up to 600whp, probably somewhere around there.

Before the FIC BlueMax line came out and way before the Hi-Z 2200/2150 injectors came out in the last two or so years they were considered the largest "streetable" injector without a seperate driver box.

They were certainly a hell of a lot better than the old Ford/Bosch 1600s

Just found some data from a test of the 1450s I have:


This particular test bed is showing a lot of these injectors may be producing a "bounce" effect immediately after the close where it is settling back on the seat, and allowing some fuel to escape past the injection event window in some cases.
 

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Old Dec 18, 2012 | 01:25 PM
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I cant see the attachment. How the other project coming along?
 
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 01:27 PM
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ur car coming along so great bro <3 Spotted a car like the one ur building chris yesterday on the freeway guy was flying passs by me turbo blew off sound great and he was back fireing crazy loud when he slowed down kinda like this lol
 
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 01:35 PM
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Wafulz Hahaha yea my DSMs do that to. It's what happens on on the injector over-run when I stay in gear and lift off the gas, gets peoples attention. You can affect it by changing the fuel cut offset to a higher engine speed. So if the exhaust is hot enough (450*F or so) and the exhaust flow is moving fast enough it will explode outside the exhaust, mine are louder then that too!

The two-step launch system is even more violent that haha I had to tone down my spark retard and fuel enrichment when I was running the undercar open dump pipe because I could see the flames lighting up items behind me and the dump ended just behind the driver seat.. so the flame was more than 10ft long!

This was the exhaust I was running then, the muffler can is a fake, its a straight through pipe..



Have to run a straight pipe exhaust or it can blow out cats/resonators/mufflers depending on how big a fuel packet escapes the motor and ignites downstream!

One of those events will destroy a catalytic converter.

This new setup, going through the hood should make for an insane lightshow

SB The Fit is going to keep coming along, but very slow.

I have nearly every part required, the FlashPro being the key to this.. but the fabrication budget has been sunk entirely into the DSM for now.

I have my first "long-run" event coming up in early June.. the Chicago Half-Mile shootout, and I am determined to be ready to go on kill mode by then.
 

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Old Dec 18, 2012 | 01:42 PM
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I will have to try to attend that shoot out. What track is that at?
 
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 01:48 PM
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This is at an airport runway.. Bult Field's 5100 foot strip!
 
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 02:02 PM
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ahh so thats how it happens hehe look crazy
 
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 02:05 PM
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This is at an airport runway.. Bult Field's 5100 foot strip!
I will just wait for pictures, That is in TC area.
 
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Brief update, lots of stuff I have yet to shoot a picture of..

Last big picture shot I took last week:
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More core support mods to accomodate the big head-light replacing scoop intake pipe:
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All 3 meth nozzles arrived today.. 2x 2GPH and 1x 10GPH:
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Big nozzle installed up by the throttle body:
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Other two are going immediately in front of and after the turbo

EGT sensors, Oxygen Sensors and Turbine Drive Pressure sensors all welded in and wired up!
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How many gallons of methanol will you be using per mile? I'm jealous, my injector is tiny and I only have one of them.
 
Old Jan 2, 2013 | 03:52 PM
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How many gallons of methanol will you be using per mile? I'm jealous, my injector is tiny and I only have one of them.
GPM looks about right 0_o
 
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Total of 14GPH (rated @ 150psi) would give me ~870cc/min. They will be fed by a 250psi pump, and the nozzle manufacturer said that they should move ~1000cc/min all together.

5 mile/2xx mph pass should chug about a gallon.

Depending on primary fuel type.. the car could be as much as 23lbs lighter at the end of the run lol

I may end up using larger jets and a bigger reservoir though.
 

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